conversations with cheetara
13 November 2003

Cheetara: tell me to study
me: you should study
me: it would gratify me if you studied
Cheetara: I'm listening to "crazy in love"
me: studying is valuable
Cheetara: yes it is
me: what is crazy in love?
Cheetara: I should get some done
Cheetara: that beyonce song
me: i'm not up on the oeuvre of beyonce
Cheetara: I'm not other than this song
Cheetara: which I adore
Cheetara: http://entertainment.msn.com/artist/?artist=106606
Cheetara: you aren't speaking to me :-(
me: i'm on a call
Cheetara: it's like you are busy with work or something
me: *shock*
Cheetara: =-O
me: ok, i'm free
Cheetara: free at last
Cheetara: free at last
Cheetara: thank god almight I'm free at last
Cheetara: s. has a baby. the baby has a big head
me: um your former s.?
Cheetara: yep
me: um, like, hydrocephalic?
me: or just big?
Cheetara:
Cheetara: just big
me: i'm listening to crazy in love
Cheetara: I'm sending you a big head
me: the music I listen to is rarely about the "so happy in love" phase of relationships.
Cheetara: yes I know
Cheetara: but it just such a dance-y song
me: it's generally about dangerous obsessions, melancholy loneliness, or unfulfilled yearning.
Cheetara: it makes me get up and dance
me: are you dancing right now?
Cheetara: no ... just woke up from nap
Cheetara: body isn't fully cooperative
me: it did make my toes tap
Cheetara: really?
me: actually, the way i'm sitting it's easier to tap my heel
me: so i'm doing that.
Cheetara: ok
me: uh oh oh oh oh nono
Cheetara: lol
Cheetara: nice
Cheetara: you are now seeing what's attractive in the song
Cheetara: it's thursday right?
me: y
me: i'm wearing a tie
me: ergo it's thursday
Cheetara: ok
Cheetara: thursday is tie day at carvel?
me: is it?
me: it's tie day at jupiter
me: or are you implying that i should be scooping ice cream for a living?
Cheetara: no
Cheetara: when I was growing up
me: I like how s. wants to "do" places
Cheetara: carvel ads would say "wednesday is sumdae at carvel"
Cheetara: yes isn't that nice?
Cheetara: I was going to ask him what "doing" meant
Cheetara: but
Cheetara: fuck it
Cheetara: I'm also glad that there is a lot to do in St. Louis
Cheetara: like look at the arch
Cheetara: drink beer
me: oh god "Controller of our power transformer factory"...
Cheetara: and hang out with a complete joy
me: someone's got to do that sort of thing lord knows
Cheetara: thank god it isn't me
me: Does he alwasy write like that?
me: always*
me: such short declarative sentences...
Cheetara: it was particularly stilted and formal
Cheetara: I don't remember him writing like that in the past
me: I've attached a photo of my son, William. He was born on [some date]. He is
a complete joy.

me: It's like one of those exercises from middle school..."rewrite into a more complex, interesting sentence."
Cheetara: lol
Cheetara: yeah
Cheetara: it is not the most dynamic of emails
Cheetara: but I guess some energy is sapped out of you when you are the comptroller of a power company
me: "Bill S." ... He's going to grow up to be the kind of man who says "howdy, ma'am."
Cheetara: lol
Cheetara: apparently they are calling him william
Cheetara: which makes me shudder
me: hey...what's wrong with that?
Cheetara: it's just all odd
Cheetara: he got exactly what he wanted
Cheetara: a boy
Cheetara: that looks like him
Cheetara: while he lives his suburban life
Cheetara: and his son isn't name siddarth (my fave male name)
me: um, all the kids will call him "darth"
Cheetara: cooler than william
Cheetara: and anyway they'd call him sid
me: why "siddarth" and not "siddartha"
me: ?
Cheetara: dunno
Cheetara: I like siddarth
me: is it a common name?
Cheetara: I know 2
Cheetara: which isn't many really
me: i don't know what I'd name a hypothetical kid.
me: christopher, maybe
me: "Christopher Maybe Laszlo"
Cheetara: I like Christopher Maybe
Cheetara: that's funny
me: Cassandra if a girl
Cheetara: I used to love that name
Cheetara: now it strikes me as frilly
me: i just like the 'prophetess of doom' aspect
me: I also like Elizabeth. Elizabeth Bathory Laszlo
me: hehehe...
me: >:)
Cheetara: I'm missing the name
me: she was an infamous transylvanian ruler who bathed in the blood of virgins
me: or so the story goes
Cheetara: ahh
me: some of the vampire mythos derives from her
Cheetara: ahh
Cheetara: snack time!
Cheetara: not very exciting for you, eh?
me: i dont' get a snack
me: though i'm going to an event at NYU law this evening
me: on games and society
me: where I will get dinner
Cheetara: for free?
me: well, no
me: i'm paying to attend
me: i got a free lunch today, though, from the Manhattan Institute
Cheetara: how was lunch?
Cheetara: you are paying for a dining services meal?
Cheetara: I'm eating at icarus tonight
Cheetara: While it may now draw “less attention than its trendier neighbors”, “all restaurants should strive” to be as “classy” as this “winged wonder”, an “elegant” “institution” in the South End that “soars head and shoulders above most”; chef-owner Chris Douglass’ “sophisticated” New American dishes are “deftly conceived and executed”, and they’re served by a “fabulous” staff that always “goes the extra bit to please” in a “refined” room “ideal for an evening of quiet conversation”; by all accounts, “this Icarus still flies high.”
me: i don't know what the dinner's going to be like
me: whatever you order, you should complain about melted wax and feathers in the entree
me: lunch today was ok. at the Harvard Club
Cheetara: badumdum
me: had a nice lunch yesterday, at balthazar. It's SO over, but the food is still good.
Cheetara: how is hte food at the harvard club? overcooked meat? oh you don't eat meat
me: chicken
Cheetara: why were you at balthazar? I've never been I'm so not trendy
me: nono, balthazar hasn't been trendy since 1998
me: my friend L. wanted to eat there.
me: so we did
Cheetara: yes
Cheetara: but I've never been anyway
me: I had cod. with a very bacony sauce
Cheetara: yum
Cheetara: cod is my favorite fish
me: really?
me: i did not know that.
Cheetara: how would you know?
Cheetara: it's not like we sit around discussing favorite fish
me: well, we've been having meals together since 1995...you'd think it would've come up in conversation before now.
Cheetara: lol
me: i like sole, but i don't know if it's my favorite
me: i may not have a favorite fish...
Cheetara: sole
Cheetara: sole
Cheetara: ....
me: i make a sauteed snapper that is amazingly simple and SO good.
Cheetara: really
Cheetara: I do like snapper
Cheetara: not as much as cod
me: chilean seabass, but it's not PC
Cheetara: I like that
Cheetara: I'm not a huge sole fan
Cheetara: and I eat salmon but don't get very excited over it
Cheetara: good quality tuna is of course good
me: when salmon is good, it's very very good.
Cheetara: yes
Cheetara: but it is usually ordinary
me: yup
Cheetara: so I don't have it often
Cheetara: except on bagels
me: pho pasteur makes a carmelized salmon casserole that is amazing.
Cheetara: which I dont' eat anymore
Cheetara: really
Cheetara: the one here?
me: y
me: in boston
me: i love pho pasteur
me: it's one of the things i miss
Cheetara: there is one in Cambridge
Cheetara: PHO PASTEUR
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Cheetara: “Pure aromatherapy”, the “huge bowls of” “fragrant”, “steaming soup” prepared at this “local” sextet “inspire regular cravings” (“fortunately, addicts can choose from among multiple locations”); it “deserves kudos” for giving Boston a “sensational” taste of Vietnam’s “delectable delights”, served by a “zippy” staff that delivers “food in a flash” in digs that “aren’t intimidating” for first-timers; the “price is right” too, so even if a minority maintains that the “tame” eats are “dumbed down” for American palates, most insist it’s just “phabulous.”
Cheetara: that one?
Cheetara: they make a good carmalized salmon casserole?
me: yes
me: yup
me: there's a branch in the Garage
Cheetara: yep that one
Cheetara: ok I'm at a crossroads
me: I used to get take out from the one on Newbury st all the time
me: crossroads?
Cheetara: crossroad?
me: no, i think the s is right
me: but what crossroads are you at?
Cheetara: it is 445
Cheetara: I have 3 choices at this juncture
Cheetara: 1) go to gym and run;
Cheetara: 2) stay in and study for another hour
Cheetara: 2a) and go to Louis Boston before dinner
Cheetara: 3) stay in and study for another 1.5 hours
Cheetara: usually plural but singular or plural in construction
Cheetara: 2 usually plural but singular or plural in construction a : the place of intersection of two or more roads b (1) : a small community located at such a crossroads (2) : a central meeting place c : a crucial point especially where a decision must be made
me: um, that's 4 choices
Cheetara: shopping trip is now scheduled for saturday
Cheetara: so now actually at 2 choices
Cheetara: 1 and 4
me: study
me: study study study
me: so that you can "write your own ticket" someday
Cheetara: interesting
Cheetara: I was thinking clearly gym
me: we began this conversation with "tell me to study"
Cheetara: ahh
Cheetara: that was hours ago
Cheetara: ok
Cheetara: here is plan
Cheetara: study
Cheetara: and go to Louis Boston
Cheetara: might be time for tea though
Cheetara: what do you think?
Cheetara: do you ever schedule in more things than you can possilby do?
me: constantly
Cheetara: why do we do that?
me: we're like sharks
Cheetara: ok explain
me: well, you know, they have to keep swimming or else they can't breathe...
Cheetara: is that true?
me: y
me: they lack the muscles other fish have to force water over their gills
Cheetara: wow
me: we do too much because accidentally doing too little is infinitely worse, and too risky
Cheetara: so we overschedule so that we live
Cheetara: too much is risky too
me: true
Cheetara: I nearly passed out today
Cheetara: so sharks never sleep?
me: i'm going to do very little on my grand canyon trip...though even there, i'm scheduling my time to within an inch of my life
Cheetara: ok
me: hiking here, driving there, seeing this, doing that
Cheetara: that's fun
me: um, sharks and sleep I'm not sure about...
me: I think what happens is most sharks swim and sleep at the same time...some sharks find underwater currents that they can park themselves in...
Cheetara: really
Cheetara: what if the current disappears, do they die? and how did they evolve that they can't breathe without swimming?
me: http://naturalhistory.broaddaylight.com/nmnh/FAQ_75_142.shtm
me: : on another topic entirely, paris hilton did it with Nicole Lenz AND Simon Rex??? on TAPE? what a world, what a world.
Cheetara: ah tea
Cheetara: what
me: that was the best non sequitur I've seen in ages!
Cheetara: this is a different tape?
Cheetara: lol
me: yes, there's apparently a new tape floating around
Cheetara: so now there are two?
me: http://www.fleshbot.com/archives/010200.php
me: : online porno blog
Cheetara:
THU
13
NOV03 To: Prince Charles Re: Consider Being All Gay
Antigesit writes an open letter to Prince Charles:

"With all respect Sir, no one likes you. No one ever has. You are the saddest excuse for a prince the world has ever known. You are odd, cold, you don't photograph well, and you're boring. As a matter of fact none of your accomplishments, from your military service to your diplomatic efforts, have ever endeared you to your people. I bet even your Mum likes Andrew better. And with good reason. He's got pizzaz, a wry smile, he's dated porn stars. But you? It seems like you can't make a favorable impression on anybody, your life thus-far has been a senseless conundrum...unless you're gay."



me: y
Cheetara: that is fucking awesome
me: poor prince charles
Cheetara: oh yeah
me: gawker is very funny
me: they find cool stuff
Cheetara: poor prince charles my ass
me: well, would you trade places with him?
Cheetara: ummm
Cheetara: rich and royal
Cheetara: sure
me: homely and slow
Cheetara: silly joe
me: and no one takes him seriously
Cheetara: but I'd be me and him
Cheetara: with the good of both
me: you don't get to pick only the good things about being him
Cheetara: yes I do
me: you have to trade all of you for all of him
me: i certainly wouldn't do it
me: and that's saying something.
Cheetara: well
Cheetara: I'm just saying
Cheetara: hard to feel sorry for him
me: true
me: if the anglicans are all nutso over a gay bishop in the States, I hardly think they'll go for a gay king in england
me: he'll have to abdicate
me: and move to san francisco
me: and take up interior design.
me: i bet he'd be happier, in the long run
me: whether he's gay or not.
Cheetara: probably
Cheetara: he is clearly a tortured soul
Cheetara: 5 pages 20 minutes
Cheetara: I can do it right?
me: go study
me: y
me: i'm going to log off so as not to distract you
Cheetara: actually 6 pages in 20 min
Cheetara: no you don't distract
Cheetara: I've read 24 pages while we've been chatting
Cheetara: plus snack
Cheetara: spoke to mom
Cheetara: made tea
Cheetara: plans for weekend
Cheetara: now down to 5
Cheetara: 4 pages
Cheetara: 3 pages
Cheetara: and windy out
Cheetara: 25 mph gusting to 35
Cheetara: in ny 18 gusting to 37
Cheetara: interesting
me: i'm seeking flights to the grenadines
Cheetara: nice
me: y, it's very windy here today
me: well, it's not going well so far
Cheetara: wind is whistling in windows
Cheetara: why not?
me: pricy, and not good times
Cheetara: how pricy
me: i probably should've started this process a while ago
me: not awful, in the 800-900 range
Cheetara: oh
Cheetara: that's not too bad
Cheetara: 2 pages
Cheetara: 1
Cheetara: done
Cheetara: hooray
Cheetara: very annoying, though
Cheetara: I still have 12 pages to read in the morning :-(
Cheetara: no joe
me: still working on flight stuff
me: i think my next move is to call American
me: sometimes they can find flights you can't find yourself
me: i wish I had a good travel agent
me: sometimes
Cheetara: 1) I hate american
Cheetara: 2) my dad has a travel agent
me: 1) that's fine
Cheetara: I called her when I was goign to Australia
me: 2) really?
Cheetara: I called her on a Monday
Cheetara: hadn't heard back by Tuesday pm
Cheetara: so I found a flight on my own
Cheetara: she caleld me back Friday
Cheetara: I told her she's a loswer
me: yeah, sucky travel agents are a dime a dozen
me: GOOD ones are very rare
Cheetara: 3) my friend k. from T. undergrad was a travel agent for a highclass touring firm (she led the tours sometimes) when she was working in NY it was heaven
Cheetara: I could arrange cheap trips so easily
me: my friend Jared is the travel analyst at Jupiter (he advises airlines on their websites and such)
me: he's a whiz
me: he wasn't around today, i'll try to talk to him tomorrow.
Cheetara: see you have ajared
Cheetara: that'sg reat
Cheetara: don't want to go out there
Cheetara: did you read this past tuesday's science times?
me: us air seems fairly reasonable
me: i'm off to my games event
me: have fun at icarus

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